Re: Clarity

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Posted by Dave Reville on September 21, 2020 at 07:09:49:

In Reply to: Re: Clarity posted by bottom line on September 21, 2020 at 00:44:53:

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: : : : : : College basketball should be put on hold until we know more. This could be a disaster in the making, and it's not worth it. These kids aren't pros. We should deal with Covid, then the kids can hit the courts again.

: : : : : To the untrained eye, Dave, it almost looks like you are telling people what they should do even though you insist that's not what you are doing. It's very difficult to see the difference. For example, if I was to say "we should all keep our mouths shut until we know for sure that there is even a real threat to young healthy athletes" then you might think that I was telling you that you shouldn't have an opinion, when in fact that's not what I'm saying at all. It certainly can be confusing!

: : : : I certainly don't mean to confuse anyone and apologize if I have. You're right about this - I AM trying to convince people to behave a certain way (cautiously). I state my position, and try to use relevant facts to convince people with differing opinions to change their minds. Isn't that how a debate usually goes?
: : : : I wouldn't be so aggressive about this Covid situation if not for one fact - when people take unnecessary risks they put the entire community at risk. And I don't want anyone putting my family and friends at risk.

: : : Great points. By the same logic, I think it's WAY too early to think about leaving the house for any reason ever. For example, a meteor could fall out of the sky and hit you right on the head. Or you could be in a fatal car accident like thousands of other Americans each year. No eating food because you could get food poisoning. And we haven't even gotten to potential terrorist attacks or earthquakes or weather related scenarios. Leaving home should definitely be put on hold until we know more. It could be a disaster in the making and it's not worth it. We should deal with all this stuff, then we can go out the front door.

: : No one has ever suggested you shouldn't leave your house, drive your car, pick up food, or dance naked in the rain (I added that one). I am suggesting that because of Covid it's too risky in California right now to allow kids/young adults to play a contact sport indoors (I'm also suggesting you should wear a mask when you can't socially distance, and always listen to Dr. Fauci). You're free to disagree but come on man, if you're gonna challenge, hold the hyperbole and speak to the issue at hand.

: You're not going to convince people by telling them to ignore their livelihoods and passions, when the total deaths due to Covid alone remain around 15k. Especially after only one American city needed a significant shutdown, as the beginning of the first wave was mercifully late in the flu season. There would be far more deaths if it spread two months earlier out of China, and far less doubt of how serious it can be.

: Unfortunately, due to the politicization of the info being disseminated about Covid, which include inconsistent instructions, slanted studies (both ways), and hypocritical leadership, everyone will have their own idea on what is enough precaution. There are callers to a nationally syndicated radio show who actually believe the virus will disappear instantly the morning of November 4th. Facebook stories about hospitals falsifying death certificates to get 10k per Covid death are shared and believed by millions. And that's not even getting into the George Soros or Bill Gates conspiracy theories, or the socialist agenda 21 or whatever.

: So we'll just have to let people risk their own health, and those concerned can walk around in gas masks if all hell breaks loose. The r=0 just passed over 1.0 in LA County (after being below 1 for the past two months), meaning there may not be any youth sports this year if the increase continues. Newsom will shut down everything he can if the infection rate keeps going up.

I agree with most of your points. But let's remember that we're not talking about adults, we're talking about kids/young adults here. We still don't know the full extent of Covid damage to young people. And they will often make the wrong longterm decisions when their health is involved (especially about playing a sport they love). So it's up to us, the adults, to determine when it's safe for them to get back onto the court. I'd rather err on the side of caution, and wait. But you're right, if the infection rate continues to rise, the politicians - rightly - will make that call.

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