Posted by Let's Get Real on May 04, 2020 at 15:04:09:
In Reply to: Re: The real problem for restarting sports in high schools posted by Walt Flanagan's Dog on May 04, 2020 at 13:11:32:
: : Another ad hominem response, Walt? I'm disappointed. I'm beginning to think you're an attorney.
: ***I didn't attack you, I attacked your question because it is indeed idiotic.
: : Also, my figures are not annual, they are over a period of 5 years. (You would know this if you had bothered to look at the link I posted, but hey - never let the facts get in the way of a good argument.)
: **I did, and now it appears that while you may have read it, you didn't understand that those rates were annual.
: :But percentages do not increase over time - they stay the same. That's why they are useful for analysis. In other words, if 2% of people who contracted coronavirus die within a given month, that doesn't meant 4% will die over a two month period.
: **No, but there will be an additive effect. You seem to be making the mistake of thinking that the deaths would be occurring anyway. That simply isn't true. While there would be an intersection between those who died of the virus and those who would have died anyway, you still will have those who would have only died of the virus.
: And you know what, those people count as actual human beings. "That's what old people do; they die" was a funny line in Old School, but it's really not a good way to base public policy.
: Walt's Dog
I knew exactly what the rates were when I posted them. The point remains the same. The coronavirus is just not dangerous enough to most people to justify shutting down the entire economy.
I don't understand your comment about an additive effect, and I don't think you understand it either.
As for those deaths occurring anyway, I know just as much as you do. In other words, we are both speculating. But if you read the instructions the CDC provided to health care workers in filling out death certificates*, you will note that the CDC itself says "Natural deaths are due solely or almost entirely to disease or the aging process (8). In the case of death due to a COVIDľ19 infection, the manner of death will almost always be natural." In other words, the coronavirus may bring death earlier than expected for the old, sick, and weak, but it's not (generally, to the best of our knowledge) striking down young healthy people like a bolt of lightning.
And yeah Old School was kind of funny, but I'm not the only one with this opinion. Read this opinion piece from the Washington Times: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history/
I don't think most people on these forums agree with you, Walt. I think most people agree with me. For those who do, it's time to start speaking out. We need to get the country up and running again so we can all go back to worrying about the real issues in life, like raising our kids and preparing for retirement, not where our next roll of toilet paper will come from.
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