Re: Adidas vs Nike Girls Basketball

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Posted by Somewhat agree on June 28, 2017 at 09:00:45:

In Reply to: Re: Adidas vs Nike Girls Basketball posted by Coach on June 27, 2017 at 07:09:18:

: : : : : : : : : : Which platform is better for my 13 year old daughter to play on? Just moved here to California and need a good development program but everyone keeps saying I need to play in a shoe brand league

: : : : : : : : : My daughter plays for a great travel team in Downey. They are in the Adidas gaulet circuit. It's major. And the price is really good. Are you interested

: : : : : : : : Where do you live

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: : : : : : : I live in Downey

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: : : : : : The answer is not to just play for "a shoe league".

: : : : : : The answer is to play for a coach and in an environment that will not only improve your daughter's skills, but allow her to have fun and grow as a person. Because if she isn't having fun, she won't work hard.

: : : : : : The other thing to realize is there are only so many "shoe" teams.

: : : : : : There are exactly 4 Nike teams in So Cal - Cal Sparks Gold, WCP Black, Cal Swish Black, and Team Taurasi. They play in the Nike EYBL league and theoretically are the best of the best (though that is never true and certainly not this year). All the other teams in those organizations are "Nike Affiliated". Oh, and unless you are the best of the best and everyone is fighting for you, you still pay. And those teams are very expensive due to the travel. And super political - from getting on the team to how much playing time you get.

: : : : : : I'm not as familiar with the Adidas Gauntlet teams in the area besides GBL Candace Parker National (no involvement from Candace Parker). There are probably others, but the Adidas league is big but it's all about Nike.

: : : : : : However, the real question is not where you live but how good is your daughter? Realistically. Does she want to try to play in college? And what areas of the country is she looking at? If she is looking to stay in the West, do you really need to pay a lot of $$$ to go to Chicago, South Carolina, Atlanta, Virginia, etc. Because the schools in the West will all be in big tourneys in California, Vegas, Oregon, Arizona, Texas.

: : : : : : My advice is go to some practices at multiple clubs and teams and look for a good fit both basketball wise and socially. And don't just go to "shoe teams". There are some very good non-shoe teams - and you have a better chance of not just being a check ($$$) there. For example, if you go to Cal Storm and you are not on Team Taurasi or Storm National 15U, you are a check. They have a zillion teams with random coaches, players move up, down, and sideways all the time, sometimes playing on multiple teams if they are short players.

: : : : : : Good luck. It's a big decision, and there are way too many choices. When you narrow it down, come back here and ask for advice - you will get plenty pros and cons of all of them.

: : : : : Go to the club team that is going to give your daughter valuable playing experience, improve her overall skill levels and that she will enjoy being a part of.

: : : : : Unless you're a lazy parent that wants to sit on their ass and wait for people to come to you (good luck with that), all the viewing tournaments and shoe teams are just fluff and basically playing lotto in that you hope to get lucky and get your daughter to have a great game when just the right coach is in attendance and they notice her.

: : : : : If you don't mind putting in a small bit of effort, you won't really need the fluff.

: : : : : My daughter quit playing club after her freshman year because her school played year round and she wanted to play with her friends. She continued to work hard on her game, continued to do private lessons, and played year-round with her high school team. When the time came, we (daughter and I) came up with a criteria list: 1. School located where she wanted to attend, 2. Major she wanted to study, 3. Program she could play for. We then sent out letters of interest to all the coaches of the schools that met her criteria. EVERY COACH (that means all of them) responded and every coach looked at her. About 3/4 expressed interest and more than half of them actively recruited her, including a few scholarship offers.

: : : : : Don't buy the hype. Do the work.

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: : : : Poster is right - you can (and should) do a lot of the work yourself.

: : : : However, I don't know if that will work for all kids and all levels.

: : : : Not sure how many D1's will offer without seeing a recruit play against top competition, which you rarely get at high school (nor do they have the time or recruiting $$ to come to one random high school game).

: : : : But maybe for D2/D3/NAIA this road may very doable.

: : : : In the end, I think each kid and their situation is unique.

: : : : With my daughter, we made much of the same list. However, when she got on the right club team, her world of schools opened up as she played well against good comp and in front of higher level coaches.

: : : : My advice is to find a knowledgeable person - coach, scout, etc. - who can guide you to the appropriate level of school and then base your recruiting activities on that.

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: : : :Look at the stats, top D1 recruits came out of the top shoe league/clubs. Those are the events that scouts go to because they know the best of the best are in top shoe league/clubs.

: : : These fools telling you to stay away from them are either small club directors/coaches or parents whose kids didn't make the cut of the top teams of those clubs.

: : : Be in the right club and put in the work. All will work out in the end.

: : I never said don't play for a Nike club. I just said to fall for the shoe club's BS that you are on a "Nike Team" when you are really on the third or fourth team of a Nike affiliated club.

: : Also, I pointed out to be on an appropriate team for your skill levels/goals. If you are 5-5 with OK skills, D1 is not a viable option. So don't play on Storm Pink thinking you will one day work your way to Taurasi. Because if you are not on Taurasi or National, you are just a check to them.

: : Also, I would point out if you are truly a stud, and play for a good team in good tournaments, you will be found. Especially if you have some good film and send it to the coaches of the schools you are interested in.

: : In the end, every kid and their situation is unique.

: The top clubs have, arguably, the top 50 players in SoCal. These players are already noticed and known by colleges. They are not getting noticed and scholarships because they play on the Nike teams, with extremely rare and few exceptions.

While I disagree the Top 50 players are all on Nike teams, most of them are.

However, they are known because they have been on those programs Nike teams for multiple years and those coaches have the connections to the colleges.

I certainly don't think you have to be on a Nike team to get a scholarship (I know many that weren't/aren't and are/will be just fine). However, I also know kids on those teams that do get scholarships because they were/are on them.

I truly believe you need to find the right club/team/coach that works best for your daughter basketball wise and socially. The rest will take care of itself.

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