Posted by holdbacks on June 21, 2017 at 08:26:52:
In Reply to: Re: Holdbacks posted by Coach on June 21, 2017 at 07:31:15:
: : : : : : : : Man, MD coming strong for next season!
: : : : : : : Not saying you are wrong, but that means nothing.
: : : : : : : Obviously you are inferring people are transferring in.
: : : : : : : Give names.
: : : : : : no transfers
: : : : : No transfers but we got a nice 6'2" wing coming in as a 9th grader coming in, along with some really good young talent returning. We will be a Ok, go monarchs
: : : : You mean a 10th grade 6'2" wing coming in. She is a holdback, which means that she isn't that special or really any good.
: : : That's an incorrect blanket statement right there. So you are saying that if you are in 8th Grade, very good, a special player. Then you repeat the 8th Grade, you no longer are any of those things? Better yet, if she was held back when she was younger, like when she was eight years old, do you think it was even her decision? How about we stop bashing kids for no reason POS.
: : Here's the thing, you can't compare a holdback to the class or grade they are in because they have a year of development and a year of maturity and growth over everyone else that is in their grade. If you want to compare a holdback then you have to compare them to the grade of class that they are supposed to be in. Therefore, to me that makes her not special because she is a 10th grader and she looks good but right now I can name kids that are in the 10th grade that are better than her. Heck, I can name some freshmen that are better than her. But to have her travel ball coach talk and shop her around and one of the first things mentioned was that she was a holdback. If it was a nonfactor then why mention it? I would be more excited or intrigued if she were a true freshman, than maybe I would hold her in a better regard. As for your comment on stop bashing kids for no reason, what did I say that was wrong? If you can't take criticism or the truth than don't go onto a site and boast about things. Just like everyone is excited about LeMelo Ball I think he is overrated. Am I bashing him for saying that? Maybe you and others need to grow a pair and understand that not everything is puppy dogs and rainbows.
: Your logic, and I use that term loosely, is flawed on almost everything you say here. Your first comment was completely wrong in every way. She is not a 10th grader, she is a 9th grader. She might be an old 9th grader, but she's still a 9th grader. Your denial doesn't change that. Second sentence indicates that holdback=not good. The two have nothing to do with one another. If she was the best player on the planet (including both sexes and any age), your contention would be that she isn't anything special because she's a holdback. Either stupid logic or extremely poor communication skills at making your point. You can pick where your deficiency is.
: Age does not mitigate talent. Being able to name better players does not lessen another players talent. If you can only name "some" freshman that are better, then she's probably pretty good.
: People start grades at different ages because of the birthdate cutoffs and those cutoffs are different in different states. There are probably several classmates that are almost the same age (within months). Besides, she still has 4 years eligibility.
: Saying "she isn't that special or really any good" is bashing, whether you believe it is true or not. I could call you an idiot and even though it is true it would still be bashing you.
: Of course you would't mind me calling you an idiot because if you couldn't take criticism or the truth you wouldn't be spouting off here.
But the bottom line is, no matter how you fee about holdbacks,, she is older than girls in her class. Being older definitely has its advantages physically & mentally, especially in girls. Older equates to strength and speed. Some girls going truly going into 9th grade are barely into puberty, a lot changes once that happens. Someone older has already starting filling out and building muscle. To deny that being older doesn't have an advantage is just lying to yourself.
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