Posted by RIdiculous on April 18, 2017 at 08:19:50:
In Reply to: Re: Post Final Scores Please posted by Relax on April 18, 2017 at 08:05:15:
: : : : : : : ..Head Coaches: Please have your lower level coaches post at least their final scores on MaxPreps. It's a big help when putting together a schedule to see what potential teams did the previous season. It would be a big help if they put in last season's scores now and put in scores either during the season or after the season to help others planning their schedule.
: : : : : : : ..It's hard enough to get replies from coaches and ADs so please consider putting final scores on maxpreps for all levels. Thank you.
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: : : : : : If it wasn't required for playoffs, most coaches wouldn't even put in their varsity scores.
: : : : : : Most don't put stats and a lot don't even put rosters - including big time schools like Winward.
: : : : : : Having lower level scores entered is never going to happen.
: : : : : Thought maybe the word coach was the job description, not check collector. Really, yet they can't add a final score that takes no more than 2 minutes to maxpreps? It's about the game, not about you and your check.
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: : : : Why are you worried about lower level scores? They are meaningless 90% of the time.
: : : : F/S teams are basically 90% new every year, so using last years scores to schedule next year? Crazy.
: : : : Same with JV - the good girls may go to varsity - or they may not, or they may go back and forth. New girls come up from F/S who may or may not be able to contribute.
: : : : Not to mention the turnover at the lower level coaching positions. Between my two daughters, we have been at our school for going into the eighth year. We have a good varsity teams (Top 50 Maxpreps), but have had 6 different JV coaches and this will be our 8th new F/S coach.
: : : : I think you are better off using your energies making a good varsity schedule. Get two or three tourneys for the lower levels - one easy, one challenging, one hard to build confidence and increase their abilities (hopefully).
: : : : Instead of worrying about some schools lower level records, take that time to find the appropriate lower level tourneys to put them in.
: : : Sometimes I see lower level coaches post something like this. Usually the claim is they are trying to make the schedule and want good games for their team. I get that.
: : : However, there are some lower level teams that are always good and you don't need scores. There are some JV teams that are always bad and you don't need scores. The rest of the schools in the middle change year to year and scores from last year don't help determine.
: : : So no, I don't think it helps with determining who you should schedule.
: : You also make good points. So basically people are saying frosh doesn't matter, should just play whoever you can get, go to some tourneys (if we had the money) and hopefully get some experience and be happy with that because you practice outside anyways. Come to our practice and tell ours girls that they are less important than varsity or JV. We put effort into the frosh team because we care abut these students and will use our energies to get the best experiences for them, a few tough games that aren't winning by more than 30 or 40 then its useless, a few close games by 10 points for good experience and then the majority of the games are in the middle and that's where the challenge is. We'll keep putting our energy into our program, and yes our varsity and JV schedules are good for us, like frosh a mix of good, average and a few close games. For many frosh girls this isn't about making the WNBA, its a great experience playing teams that treat us the same with good sportsmanship whether anyone can dribble or not. We appreciate your comments, but no need to say people shouldn't take time for these students. At our school we do whether you think its important or not. If you put your schedule on max preps it takes a minute to report the final score. We also direct our parents to check the app on their phone for the score.
: No one is saying F/S and JV doesn't matter. I applaud the effort you and your school puts into those teams. I would say that is the exception rather than the rule (though it shouldn't be).
: However, the points made above are just reality. There are limited resources available for high school basketball, especially on the girls side. I spend a lot of time on Maxpreps, and I have rarely if ever seen lower level rosters, let alone scores. In fact, this is true for boys too.
: I think almost every school cares about the lower level teams, they just don't have the resources to devote to things like posting to Maxpreps.
: As for scheduling, I agree with Coach Neil. There are teams that are traditionally good and traditionally not as strong. The others in the middle can be either strong or not depending on the year. So you can pick a mix of those teams in your area to make a good schedule.
: If you are really trying to challenge your teams, see if you can find a lower tier tournament at the next level - i.e. enter your frosh team in a lower tier JV tourney, the JV in a lower tier varsity tourney. It may be hard to find ones that will let you in, but I have seen it before. You can especially do that in the summer or fall. You can also put them into some club tourneys in summer/fall where the competition may be better.
: Good luck
:Really? Scouting teams for scheduling by seeing how their JV teams did the year before? If the players were on JV, there was a reason. See how many returners they have and their scoring stats. That is how you scout on Maxpreps. JV records are meaningless, not to mention that most teams bring the best freshmen straight to varsity any way. There are very few schools who invest in their lower level programs any more. Off of the top of my head, Granada Hills, Mark Keppel, Crescenta Valley, El Camino seem to always have strong lower level teams that feed into their varsity every year, but that is about it in the SFV and SGV that I can think of.
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