Re: Athletic Motivated Transfers


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Posted by The Truth on April 11, 2017 at 23:05:32:

In Reply to: Re: Athletic Motivated Transfers posted by Is it though? on April 11, 2017 at 13:26:23:

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : from the LA Times
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : The CIF Federated Council voted Friday to revise the wording of its state transfer rule, taking away the power of section commissioners to declare an athlete ineligible for transferring for sports reasons.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Now students can transfer for whatever reason, including sports motivation. It was approved 100-38.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Still in place is the requirement to change residences or be forced to sit out 30 days or longer. Also students cannot follow their coach to another school and recruiting remains illegal.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : The revision was pushed because parents were being punished for speaking honestly about their decision while those who kept quiet were allowed to transfer without a penalty.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : By allowing sports reasons for transferring, it does add another level of freedom to parents and athletes to simply switch schools when they are unhappy about a coach or program.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : - Eric Sondheimer

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :Is this official? What's the sit out period for such transfer?

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : Sit out period is the same

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : Only new thing is people don't have to lie about why they are transferring

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : :"Still in place is the requirement to change residences or be forced to sit out 30 days or longer." What scenarios will result a sit out of more than 30 days other than illegally recruiting?

: : : : : : : : : : : : : Following a coach or a second transfer without a valid change of address have more than 30 days of ineligibility.
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: : : : : : : : : : : Besides the scenarios above, remember that the SOP is not 30 days. It's actually about 6 weeks. The dates are established each year for each season (fall/winter/spring).

: : : : : : : : : : : For example, the fall SOP typically ends the first week of October. Based on fall season officially starting around Aug 20-ish it's about 6 weeks.

: : : : : : : : : : : Winter usually is first week of January, which is again about 6 weeks.

: : : : : : : : : : : Basically, you miss the entire pre-season but should be eligible for league and playoffs.

: : : : : : : : : : :Most transfers have always been sports transfers. That isn't the big issue. The issue that needs to be addressed is illegal recruiting and contact as well as the "academic" scholarships given by private schools especially when the kid with the "academic" scholarship needs three tutors just to maintain a 2.2 GPA. That is what needs to be addressed.

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: : : : : : : : : :Read the article again, illegal recruiting is still in place. Also, HS aid is on need basis. Not athletic or academic scholarship​. Get your facts straight.

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: : : : : : : : HS aid is SUPPOSED to be based on financial need.

: : : : : : : : We all know in many schools this is not always the case.

: : : : : : : :And you have to apply every year and it's not guaranteed that you will get the same aid next year. They can easily go from 99% to 50% the following year.

: : : : : : I like the new rule. Let's be honest, some of these coaches are just horrible on and off the court and if you feel like it's in your child's best interest to switch schools you should be allowed that opportunity. Good rule change!

: : : : : :: The lower your GPA the higher your SAT score must be. And there's no faking or cheating on the SAT score, that's the equalizer. If, for example the potential D1 recruit is going to a D1 school, if they have < 2.4 GPA they would consequently need to score 860+ on the SAT. NOT likely to happen! That's why having the highest GPA possible is so important - because it doesn't matter how many tutors a student has (and I don't think that really is an issue because some of the so-called "rich" kids have several private tutors and are going through a $4,000 Kaplan SAT prep course, etc.) - when the kid is in that room taking that SAT, they're on their own. Basically, it's insanity to not shoot for a 4.0+ GPA, no matter who you are, because the SAT score becomes a 500-600 no brainer. The kids must put in the hard work on and OFF the basketball court.

: : : : :: It's based on need. Full financial aid application every year. Scholarship amount varies year-to-year based on resources available. Academic performance taken for granted. Minimum 2.85+ GPA in order to be eligible most schools like Marlborough, Crossroads, Windward, Brentwood, etc. Don't know about Jesuit/Catholic schools though?

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: : : I believe the GPA/SAT post was referring to college.

: : : Good luck getting into Brentwood with a 2.85.

: : : They rarely if ever take a transfer and it is even hard to get in going into 9th. So if you have 2.85 MS GPA don't bother.

: : This rule change is actually pretty big. Families who were afraid of getting caught or just didn't want to lie can do it without worry now. I would imagine a higher volume of moves now.

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: All you have to do now is keep your mouth shut. If you really want to transfer and can't do that then you deserve what you get.

: This will make it easier, I agree, and it probably will increase them some.

: I think the bigger difference is you will hear a bunch of stuff about coaches and players on the way out the door.

: If you got nothing good to say, best to say none. That goes both ways, players leaving and coaches.

This new rule I think will reward good coaches and schools with good programs.

Good job CIF!



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