Posted by Reality on April 04, 2017 at 17:46:02:
In Reply to: Re: Nike Top Teams posted by Research on April 04, 2017 at 06:10:45:
: : : : : : : : : : Are all Nike Top Teams sponsored? If so, why is West Coast Premier requiring payment? A couple parents stated they are not paying and a few said they are.
: : : : : : : : : I am not trying to stir the pot here.
: : : : : : : : : This is my understanding - if it is wrong, please someone else with more knowledge correct it.
: : : : : : : : : There are no FULLY sponsored Girls Nike (or anyone one for that matter) teams. At best, some of the clubs can get free Nike shoes/gear, but it is probably just some and then discounted.
: : : : : : : : : In California, there are 5 teams in the NIKE GEYBL - which is a 32 team super-league of teams from across the country.
: : : : : : : : : They are Cal Stars (from Bay Area), Cal Storm Team Tarausi, WCP Black, Cal Swish Black, and Cal Sparks Gold. They play in the GEYBL and NIKE Nationals amongst themselves.
: : : : : : : : : So when these coaches tell you it's a NIKE team - if you are not on one of those 5, you are on a team that is in a NIKE affiliated club, with little or no real benefit (maybe discounted gear).
: : : : : : : : : Additionally, these clubs all send an additional team to some of the events to play in other divisions (or sometimes a separate event which runs concurrently).
: : : : : : : : : For example, in addition to Tarausi, Storm sends the Storm National team (which is a 15u team made up of 8/9th graders).
: : : : : : : : : As for cost, everyone usually pays, unless your daughter is ELITE good or you just can't afford it. The clubs can charge everyone a different price if they want, and they hope everyone keeps their mouth shut to not piss off other people.
: : : : : : : : : And the reality is this happens at all clubs at all levels in all sports.
: : : : : : : : : To sum up - only five NIKE teams in California. Not really fully sponsored. Clubs can and do charge whatever they want to individual players.
: : : : : : : : : Again, if this is incorrect, please correct to inform people.
: : : : : : : : : Cal Sparks top team is fully sponsored, no cost.
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: : : : : : : So Cal Sparks Gold pays for everything? No one on top team pays a penny? Not for gear, not for tourneys, not for travel?
: : : : : : Well unfortunately West Coast Premier has some of the top players (Black) paying and some don't. Just do not see this being right when that team in particular is supposed to be sponsored.
: : : : : : You are right some of the players On the top WCP team don't pay and some do. If you are paying that should tell you where your kid is on the pecking order. If you aren't ok with being a 2nd tier player on that team, leave.
: : : : Cal swish is very expensive!
: : : Cal Swish less than West Coast in my experience. Plus, you could argue that you get the best coaching staff with Swish...certainly the most experienced. Super winning college coach with national team coaching experience.
: : If these coaches are all that, then why aren't they getting the big contracts to coach in college? Maybe that should tell the parents what kind of coach they really are. Wanna be coaches and not great winning college coaches as they suggest. Parents, really sit back and think for a minute before you waste your money.
: I shopped around, cal swish is the most expensive. Seems like Wcp gets the bigger D1 scouts and scholarships. Didn't hear great things about the swish program
The reality is that everyone should find a program that fits the needs of your child. There are plenty small programs that can't offer what the larger, more established ones can, but charge fees. WCP does charge fees, Cal Swish does charge fees, Cal Sparks does charge fees and Cal Storm does charge fees just like if your daughter played club volleyball or softball. There will always be some players who will pay lesser fees than others because they can't afford to pay the required fees and that should be up to the club to decide their reasons for helping financially challenged kids get through summer ball. If you don't think that is right, take it up with that club or don't play there, but coming on here to vent or bash the clubs isn't the way to go. If your club administrators have day jobs, it's probably because they aren't using funds generated in club for themselves. Most administrators and club coaches use more of there own money to keep their clubs afloat and kids in their program because the expenses always supersede what they charge. It's funny how you guys think girl's basketball is such a big money business when in reality it's not and there's documentation to prove it. If you can pay, pay. If you can't, talk to your club and work it out because the overall objectives is to get our girl's maximum exposure, not fatten our pockets.
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