Posted by LOL on March 22, 2017 at 12:46:52:
In Reply to: Re: All CIF SS awardees posted by POS on March 22, 2017 at 12:04:29:
: : : : : : : : : : : My guess is your kid isn't talented enough to earn what mine did and that's why you need to balance the field with participation points.
: : : : : : : : : I don't even have a daughter who plays, so no dog in this race.
: : : : : : : : : I don't encourage "participation trophies".
: : : : : : : : : My point has always been - the BEST players deserve the awards.
: : : : : : : : : Teams should not get players on the list just because they go an extra round in the playoffs.
: : : : : : : : : The lists, as selected, at least for Open and 1AA, do not reflect this.
: : : : : : : : : This list is strictly based on CIF-SS playoffs performance. So if your daughter's team didn't make the cut or was taken out early then she won't qualify.
: : : : : : : : Coaches from SS divisions get to nominate 2 from his/her team and 10 from other teams within their division.
: : : : : : : : It is what it is. It basically recognized players who performed well during the CIF rounds. Don't try to make it into something it's not.
: : : : : : : : And no, not only Open teams should get recognized. They may have more quality club players but to say there aren't top players in Div 1 to Div 4 is just foolish. There are plenty of girls in those divisions that choose those schools for academic reason, friends attending in those schools and other personal preference they might have.
: : : : : : : : You know this if you do club ball. Where you see their true game when they are playing against each other.
: : : : : : : See my above post. All CIF can't be based on playoff performance alone, as there are players who made it who had horrible playoff performances and teams did not advance past the quarters (including a first round bye)
: : : : : : ;No system is perfect. If enough coaches voted to a particular player then she'll be on the list. Do your homework, go to CIF-SS.org. The form that coaches use can be found in that site. Am sorry that your daughter didn't make the cut.
: : : : : : I agree, club is where you truly see a players talents playing with and against top competition. Most of these high school coaches are clueless, and don't know how or won't utilize players at their proper positions because they have a whole village to try and appease. I have watched some studs on the club circuit look mediocre on their high school teams
: : : : Club is run and gun, run no plays that work, play horrible defense, no blocking out, poor fundamentals, etc. and the High School Coach has to reteach all these players and put them together as a team after they've played spring, summer and fall with a travel coach instilling individualism, selfishness, etc. into these athletes. Terrible, Bad, Selfish.
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: : : There is no way on God's good Earth that Club ball is better than HS ball.
: : : But, again, that showcases and highlighgs the problem - parents that don't have a clue and think their kid is a player because she is doing something at D4 because her friends wet there LOL.
: : : More likely hiding at a lower level hoping to be recognized for being best player on a crap team. Watch what happens when a kid transfers up to an Open school. It ain't pretty but neither is girls basketball.
: : :Tell me a top player in Open Team that didn't come from a club.
: Giner from Orangewood Academy.
: One kid that may be an exception maybe, but overall no argument tops players in open come from club period
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