Posted by Feel You on January 31, 2017 at 09:45:08:
In Reply to: Re: Last city section REFS posted by You need to try refereeing on January 31, 2017 at 08:31:16:
: : : : : : : : : : Many refs for the city section are horrible. I've seen many times were they hold grudges on coaches and take it out on the kids not calling the rights calls, letting things go, not controlling the game and letting things get out of hand. There job is to control the game NOT TO GOVERN IT. Many of them cost the game for teams and will do anything possible to make sure the team they do not like does not wish the game.*
: : : : : : : : : : Thoughts ?
: : : : : : : : : There are good reffs and bad reefs, doesn't really matter the section.
: : : : : : : : There are many different units around LA and they all do their certification differently. Which is why you have a discrepancy with different referees. Unfortunately some of the refs are in it for the extra cash. Others do it because they like the game and want to be around it. I do it for the love of the game as well as the extra money, but more for the love of the game.
: : : : : : : : If you have an issue with the referee, send video of the game(s) to the unit that the referee's are from. Here is the website for the CBOA - http://www.cboa.net/topLevel.cgi
: : : : : : : Thank you in truly appreciate it
: : : : : : : You get what you pay for, refs get between $20-$30 per game.
: : : : : not true
: : : : : varsity refs get paid $60-$70 bucks per game
: : : : As a referee and coach who attends many games, parents and coaches often do not know the rules. Now, many referees make mistakes. High school referees are not professionals. Consequently, they do not spend all day training to be a referee. They come from another job, just as many HS coaches do. They are not perfect, and most good referees acknowledge that.
: : : : However, when I attend games and sit in the stands, many of the parents complaints are baseless. Many coaches do not understand the traveling violation; it is not the same as the NBA rule, as an example. The call argued for the most is "over the back" and there is no such rule in the rulebook. Also, parents and coaches have no appreciation for what referees are looking at and which referee is in charge of that area.
: : : Officials in both the City and Southern Sections do an outstanding job. Of course they make mistakes but not nearly as many as the children of the parents posting in this thread do. I watched a game this week that with the score 17-0 the ref called a charge on the leading team and at least 4 different parents screamed at her. 17 to bleeding 0.
: : A foul is a foul regardless of the team or the score.
: : Does it always work out that way? No. But it should.
: : And to say parents (or coaches or players) should be upset over a bad call should not depend on the score.
: : And as a player, coach, and parent I have been on both sides of this happening and still maintain a foul is a foul.
: Referees are human. They will make mistakes. Unless you have been on the floor trying to referee a real game and I'm not talking about NJB and Rec, but HS games and Travel games. As in any profession, there are good ones and bad ones. You have to take it with a grain of salt. The main thing is the safety of the players first and foremost. I've blown the whistle when the other team has the ball and the opposing player is down with an injury, parents are screaming you can't stop play like that. My response to them is, "If that was your child would you want me to stop play?" We try to determine the out come of a game, but we are there to help manage the game so it is played correctly. Different refs have different styles and if you have conflicting styles of how they may call a game, then it looks one sided. Again, my suggestion to you is go out and ref a game or two and see how easy it is. Remember, you have a specific area to monitor not the entire court. I've been told (had my ass chewed out) that although I made the correct call, that was not my responsible area so I should have never made the call, because now you just made your partner look bad. There are about 10 certification test that you will need to pass with an 80% score or higher and you need to pass all 10 to get certified. Give it a try and then come back to this forum and complain.
I complain about refs as much as anyone, but I completely agree with you. As parents, we are caught up in the emotion of the game and our child's success and safety.
There are good refs and bad refs, just as there are good workers and bad workers at any job.
You never are appreciated and have to put up with being yelled at by both sets of parents for entire games for $70.
It's a tough gig.
My bigger issue is that, especially for girls, where there are very few good games, when there is a game with two top teams, there should only be top refs.
These are the games with big crowds, and when the reffing is bad, the casual fan just won't come back. Which sounds unimportant until you think about the average attendance of a girls game. Sometimes you can literally count the fans.
So when the stands are full, and the crowd is loud and there is a lot of energy, the last thing you want is for people to leave complaining about refs rather than "that was a great entertaining game, we should come back again."
So from appreciative parent (though not always during games!), thank you.
And if you can pass along the get-good-refs-at-big-games comment to all the various unit assigners, it would be appreciated.
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