Re: CIF Division Change


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Posted by Pac League on May 13, 2019 at 08:36:43:

In Reply to: Re: CIF Division Change posted by Pacific League on May 12, 2019 at 21:12:49:

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Whatís the criteria for CIF moving schools to higher or lower divisions? Especially lower divisions moving up like 4AA or 3a?

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Tell me the school and Iíll tell you what division they will be in next year...if you are interested in a few just list them and Iíll tell you..

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : JSerra? Santa Margarita? Aliso Niguel?

: : : : : : : : : : Any way to list where every team will be next year? Or is that just an insane amount of work? Thank you in advance
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : Aliso Niguel #17 power ranking D1
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : SM #37 power ranking D1
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : JSerra #45 power ranking 2AA

: : : : : : : : : : : : :
: : : : : : : : : : : : : interesting. JSerra beat SM-and played a tougher schedule. Played D1 and went 1 round deep. SM played 2A-they would go all the way to D1?

: : : : : : : : : : : : : Is this based on Maxpreps?

: : : : : : : : : : : : Correction-JSerra went 2 rounds deep in D1. Won first game, lost to eventual winner Chaminade.

: : : : : : : : : : : It is the CIF system.. You have to go through each
: : : : : : : : : : : teams schedule and use the CIF formula..

: : : : : : : : : : : The formula is llisted on the cifss.org website..
: : : : : : : : : : : Go to girls basketball and then click on
: : : : : : : : : : : playoff divisions.. it shows the system.

: : : : : : : : : : : SM got a ton of bonus points from their playoff
: : : : : : : : : : : run.. their first round win was worth 39 points
: : : : : : : : : : : 2nd round win was worth 43.5 and their quarter
: : : : : : : : : : : win was worth 48... those wind really bump up
: : : : : : : : : : : your power ranking.. and losses to Open teams
: : : : : : : : : : : are worth 14 points so SM will always have a
: : : : : : : : : : : higher RPI so to speak... most schools donít
: : : : : : : : : : : understand the system and some coaches do.

: : : : : : : : : How about 4a teams? Hillcrest? Orange Vista? Garey? Crean? How do you think those teams fare?

: : : : : : : : Our school has won two playoff games in three years and has been moved up two divisions and next year going up two divisions higher. Thought it was for playoff equity? Tough job CIF has. Can't please everyone.

: : : : : : : Crean Lutheran - 3AA -- 12.171 (#27 in 3AA)
: : : : : : : Hillcrest - 3AA -- 11.775 (#35 in 3AA)
: : : : : : : Orange Vista - 4AA -- 9.416 (#2 in 4AA)
: : : : : : : Garey - 4AA -- 9.282 (#7 in 4AA)

: : : : : : : Crean and Hillcrest are definite 3AA teams
: : : : : : : Garey is pretty locked at 4AA.
: : : : : : : Orange Vista could move up to 3A depending on where CIF draws the lines.

: : : : : : : My formula identifies 28 or so automatic bids
: : : : : : : like CIF, but I have no idea what CIF will do.

: : : : : :
: : : : : : How about three more teams from 4A...Santa Fe, St. Pius X-St. Matthias and Xavier Prep?

: : : : Santa Fe ó 11.661 (#37 in 3AA - #150 overall)
: : : : Xavier Prep ó 8.723 (#22 in 4AA - #231 overall)
: : : : St. Plus X ó 7.757 (#1 in 4A - #267 overall)

: : : : Santa Fe locked, XP locked
: : : : St. Pius BUBBLE...top of 4A or bottom of 4AA

: : : Moreno Valley? Anaheim?

: : Anaheim - 10.083 (#37 in 3A - #193 overall)
: : MV - 9.162 (#10 in 4AA - #219 overall)

: : Remember these are just their power rankings in the eyes of the CIF formula... Most of the teams you are asking about would not fair well against D1 / D2 and even a lot of D3 teams.

: How about the Pacific League teams. Thanks

Pac League is a tough league


Arcadia 18.159 -- (#10 2AA -- #50 overall)
Pasadena 16.407 -- (#29 2AA -- #69 overall)
C V -- 15.923 (#2 2A -- #77 overall) - BUBBLE
Burroughs -- 15.861 (#5 2A -- #80 overall)
Glendale -- 12.848 (#17 3AA -- #130 overall)
Burbank -- 11.656 (#38 3AA -- #151 overall)
Hoover -- 7.489 (#10 4A -- #276 overall)
Muir -- somewhere in D5...probably 5AA still

I only did D5's that could possibly move up..




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