Re: Congratulations

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Posted by Not the same on February 17, 2019 at 15:23:51:

In Reply to: Re: Congratulations posted by Still Blowouts on February 17, 2019 at 12:03:58:

: : : Congrats to the 3rd 4th 5th place teams of their leagues that made it to the CIF Championship what a huge accomplishment well deserved. Should be some tough battles for the some of the 3rd 4th & 5th place teams in their league who are playing each other for CIF Championships.

: : There are different levels of champions in every section in America. The difference is they do it by school size in most of them and competitive equity in our State. There is no difference. In power states there are d5 teams that win their section that are good enough to compete in d1 but they can't due to enrollment. They rip through the playoffs. Isn't it better that our best 32 teams are aligned in each division based on their ability. This creates close games. Would it be better if they did it on enrollment. You would have 50 point massacres all the way through. There is no perfect situation but this is the closest it gets and you can best believe that other states will follow in our model. As long as there are going to be multiple divisions (there always will be because of money for CIF in hoops and football) there is no other way. Bottom line there are no blowouts anymore and more upsets are happening because there is balance. CIF made sure the 60 point games are a thing of the past.

: So if there are no blowouts what is:
: 2AA
: Rolling Hills Prep 57
: Warren 26

: Huntington Beach 56
: Canyon 20

: Roosevelt 80
: Bishop Amat 61

: Cajon 40
: Roosevelt 75

: Village christian 71
: Buena 49

: 2A
: El Dorado 74
: Rancho Cucamonga 46

: Arroyo valley 65
: Mira Costa 40

: St Mary academy 60
: Woodbridge 24

: 3AA
: Brentwood 70
: San Jacinto 40

: Knight 53
: Yacca valley 26

: Granite hills 36
: santiago 72

: South torrance 64
: carter 25

: peninsula 73
: st joseph 30

: St. Bonaventure 61
: Antelope Valley 34

: These are only a few of the blowouts, there are many 20 plus wins also in the different divisions. The only difference is they are not the usual teams blowing people out. If you went back to divisions you would have some excellent championship games in the different division that the community would want to see not just parents and the school that is playing. This is why CIF is losing money at the event and attendance is down 150,000 fans at championship events since 2014. Football was down 25,000 this year. If you keep moving all the good teams up, you will continue to get 4th and 5th place teams playing on championship day and no one not tied to the school wants to see. When a team can be 2-8 in league and be playing for a CIF title you have a problem.

I know you cite some 30-40 pt games in the first rd. Let me remind you of the old system in the 1st rd

2015-2016 - these 4 are all in the same division, 1st rd
Redondo 76
Fountain Valley 4 (not a typo, 2 baskets)

Great Oak 63
Chaffey 12

Lynwood 73
Wilson 29

Bishop Montgomery 89
Lakewood 47

I think there are 50+ pt margins in every division back under the old system. The new system is a huge upgrade for more competitive games. Yes, each division the talent decreases and the teams are not great but they are playing competition that is similar. Not the case 4 years ago.

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