Re: CIFLA Open Watch List --May be Irrelevant if there is a strike.


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Posted by City Section on January 10, 2019 at 08:33:41:

In Reply to: Re: CIFLA Open Watch List --May be Irrelevant if there is a strike. posted by ITK on January 09, 2019 at 15:28:51:

: : : : : : : : : Hello Coaches,

: : : : : : : : : I always wonder why the city does not have open watch list like the southern section? Let's create one on socalhoops. Here we go!

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: : : : : : : : : Granada Hills
: : : : : : : : : Narbonne
: : : : : : : : : El Camino Real
: : : : : : : : : Hamilton
: : : : : : : : : Eagle Rock
: : : : : : : : : Westchester
: : : : : : : : : Carson
: : : : : : : : : Legacy
: : : : : : : : : Birmingham
: : : : : : : : : Palisades
: : : : : : : : : Dorsey

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: : : : : : : : : What your opinion? Coaches help me out!

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: : : : : : : : They did put out a list last year, but with everything going on with the strike, I don't think they have done any kind of polling this season.

: : : : : : : : Your list pretty much sums it up.

: : : : : : : : But I might swap Cleveland with Dorsey, though I don't think either actually makes it.

: : : : : : : Taft may take Dorsey's spot

: : : : : : West Valley League is top league this year.

: : : : : : Besides the usual GH and ECR, Birmingham is still good and Cleveland and Taft are improved too.

: : : : : : Prediction:

: : : : : : 1. GH/ECR (I think they split)
: : : : : : 3. Birmingham
: : : : : : 4. Taft
: : : : : : 5. Cleveland
: : : : : : 6. Chatsworth

: : : : : : Of course the strike may mess all this up!

: : : : : That 8th spot for open is going to be a toss up because the city is so down it really hard to find 8 good teams in city

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: : : : City Open (As of Now)

: : : : In no order:

: : : : Granada Hills
: : : : ECR
: : : : Birmingham
: : : : Narbonne
: : : : Westchester
: : : : Hamilton
: : : : Eagle Rock

: : : : Last spot from Pali, Carson, Legacy

: : : In the event of a strike by teachers--which is looking likely-- there may be no playoffs for LA City. They've already issued a bulletin announcing that during a strike there will be no LA City Section games or practices in any sport, including basketball. It would be really unfortunate, but unless the UTLA and the District can reach an accord, I wouldn't count on playoffs at all for City Section.

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: : It depends on how long the strike is in effect. If it is a short period, schools have the option to try and reschedule or take a "no contest", which is basically it was never scheduled. The playoffs could be condensed, i.e. play 3 games per week. The issue is they have to deal with the State Playoff dates, which are not going to be changed.

: : If the strike lasts for a significant time, they could choose to forgo State and just have Section playoffs.

: : However, I don't see the strike lasting for too long, as eventually a court will step in and say it is causing harm/danger to the community and order them back to work.

: : At that point they could file a strike notice again, and the process would repeat.

: : I think once it starts next week, there will be pressure to reach a compromise sooner rather than later.

: Sadly, I don't think any court is going to order the ULTA back to work if they do strike. Anyone who was around during the very first UTLA strike in 1971 will remember that it lasted a very long time and the courts refused to step in to cut the strike short. I just don't see any court doing that here, no matter how long the strike were to last. You may be right though about the pressure to reach a compromise. Just like the federal partial shutdown, no one, including especially teachers who tend to live paycheck to paycheck, want to be out of work for any appreciable length of time.

: But remember, there are only 3 weeks left of regular season games scheduled before the Section playoffs are scheduled to begin. Even a short strike could disrupt everything.


I don't think a short strike (a week) would affect anything. Either add an extra game per week or just skip them.

Even at two weeks, you play what you can and go to playoffs. Seedings may be a little funky but they usually are anyway. And let's remember, basically everyone makes the playoffs regardless of record.

The problem is if it goes three weeks. Then it gets dicey, but I would still just play the playoffs like a giant tournament.

But back to the Courts, times are different than 1971. Most families are now two parent working families so child care becomes an issue. There are also way more special needs kids that need specially trained teachers that can't be filled with parent volunteers (see the lawsuit already filed). Not to mention the world and especially Los Angeles is way more kinder and gentler (everyone gets a trophy!) now. The argument would be a prolonged strike would cause an extraordinary burden on the city and families and the teachers need to go back to work and continue negotiating. And then when nothing happens with that, they would re-file a strike notice and repeat the cycle.

This is a big mess, and believe me, sports is the last thing on the minds of either leadership group.


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