Posted by Realize on April 08, 2018 at 08:36:22:
In Reply to: Re: CIF Transfer Questions posted by POS on April 07, 2018 at 22:01:54:
: : : : : Can my daughter transfer from her current high school to a high school that her club coach is the head coach at? It would be a valid change of residence. Thanks!
: : : : Come on. Of course not. That is undue influence. She will be ineligible. You can transfer anywhere else for any reason as they got rid of athletically motivated transfer rule but there still is undue Influence. You can't follow your club coach and transfer. Period. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But if someone turns you in she will be 100 percent out for one year.
: : : : Hope this helps
: : : Hold on there. While the undue influence rule still persists, and there may be a presumption of such undue influence, it's always a rebuttable presumption. In other words, if the club coach had nothing to do with the transfer, offered nothing, said nothing, and that can be proved, the high school might not otherwise question the transfer or rule the player ineligible (since it is the school which, in the first instance enforces the rules). This would require both the outgoing school and the incoming school to agree, but it's not an impossibility as "Are you serious" makes it out to be.
: : : Undue influence requires more than just "being there". It requires inducements made to the player, his parents or guardians that are the prime motivating factors in the transfer.
: : Transferring to the school of your travel team coach is considered prima facia evidence of undue influence. It would require the athlete to sit our a year if the former school puts that on the transfer form. This still apart of the transfer rule.
: Once again the pundits on here don't know what they are talking about. The transfer will be legal. Undue influence does not exist anymore in CIF. Kids actually what I should say is parents can transfer their kids to any school they want to now. You don't even have to move.
: You can quote the CIF Blue Book all you want the transfer will be approved even if the school the kid is leaving has evidence of undue influence. I had a coaching friend lose a player to transferring. The kid went on to play for her travel ball coach. My friend presented to CIF pictures of their former player, playing for her travel ball coach. My friend did the paperwork, cited that there was undue influence and shared the evidence. CIF told my friend that the transfer was legitimate and immediately approved.
: It is just how things are handled by the mighty CIF. Just look around, it has been going on for years. You can see suspect transfers almost every year. It is just funny that most of the idiots on here think that CIF still enforces their own rules.
You do realize that the CIF offices do not have an investigative unit, they simply refer things back to the schools and ask the schools to look into it and make a decision based on the info presented. Some schools are so stubborn they take CIF to court about it (and usually win) if they do not like the original ruling and or appeals to them. In a sense the rules are a little different for each school based on their admin and how much they are willing to “look the other way” or fight the CIF offices.
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