Re: Middle school and clubs


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Posted by Basketball Jones on February 07, 2018 at 19:49:49:

In Reply to: Re: Middle school and clubs posted by Comments on February 07, 2018 at 09:06:21:

: : : : : : : : I have enjoyed the "High School vs. Club" and "What parents should be doing this summer" threads. I wonder if those in the know might offer some advice to a dad who has a 10 year old daughter who has developed a love of the game in just a year and a half of rec league ball.
: : : : : : : : I'm an older dad and things have changed a ton since I played the game. I don't know the scene in southern Cal, but I'm reading this board trying to soak up some knowledge. I've seen excellent and varied opinions for girls who are exceptional at the high school level.

Many, many thanks to those of you who offered your perspective. This is fantastic information. I've searched the web and found sites associated with all those teams. I did not find any site representing West Coast Dream, but I will keep searching.

May I ask what kind of financial commitments these teams require? I do understand it may be different with each team, but what is the general ballpark?

: : : : : : : : What should a dad be doing for a daughter who's among the best in her rec league, but hasn't really seen real competition? Where should I be looking for additional opportunities?

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: : : : : : : A big question is where do you live and how are you willing to travel?

: : : : : : : After that, I would tell you to take all the suggestions you are going to get here and try out as many of them as you can. Look for fit with the team, the coach, and your fit with the other parents. You will be spending a lot of time with them!

: : : : : : : Lastly, make sure she is having fun! Yes, you want her to get better and play good competition, but if she isn't having fun, especially at that age, she won't want to play anymore!

: : : : : : : Good luck!

: : : : : : Priority for us is absolutely fun. She enjoys the game and definitely has a "basketball jones" (old timer term). Her rec league finishes in a couple weeks, so I'm just trying to figure out how to get her on a court for more fun. Not pushing her, but rather facilitating her desire. We're in the Studio City area. I'd welcome any advice.

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: : : : : There are three main clubs that are based in the Valley.

: : : : : So Cal Shooters - solid program, good coaching. Skill oriented and plays in the better tourneys along with some local ones and they host their own. Currently only has youth teams. Cost is about average with others. Practices are in Sherman Oaks.

: : : : : TVT Elite - in reality the longest running club, as it used to be Lights out. In fact, both So Cal Shooters and R2H organizers both started here. Have teams from youth to high school. Many of their current/former players are some of the top high school players in the valley this year. Coaches are from Crossroads, Harvard Westlake and Buckley. Strong middle school teams and they play in same tourneys as Shooters and also host their own. Cost is average, practices are at Birmingham and Harvard Westlake.

: : : : : R2H - newest of the three. Have strong younger teams, but middle school teams not as good as the others. Youth through high school teams. Most of their kids come from Balboa park originally. Play in mostly local tourneys, and sometimes in lower divisions of stronger ones. Most family oriented (parties, get togethers). Cost is average. Practices are all over - Reseda HS, some park gyms, and outside at Balboa Park.

: : : : : From my observations and discussions with people who have played with some or all of them (yes it happens!), here are some thoughts. Best skills training - Shooters. Best coaching overall in program - TVT. Most fun - R2H. That being said, TVT is probably the best balance of everything. Good training, good coaching, good competition,
: : : : : while still having fun.

: : : : : All that being said - try them all out and see what you like and where your daughter and you fit in the best. And remember - if you try one and don't like it - you can easily go to another one.

: : : : : Good luck!

: : : : I'm glad to hear that fun is the priority, as it should be at this age. That being said, if your daughter is the best player on her rec league and she's looking for more of a challenge, definitely find her a club team so she can get a taste of higher level play.

: : : : Besides fun, skill work should be the most important thing at her age, especially ballhandling work. Shooting consistency and form will come later when she grows and gains upper body strength. Find a coach that can teach her how to play in a system; this will pay big dividends later. Find a trainer who can work with her on her skills. Some clubs have both, but sometimes you're better off finding a trainer outside the club.

: : : : Also, meet a lot of other parents whose kid plays ball and find out who they like in your area in terms of trainers and coaches. You'll be running into these same parents for years so you may as well make friends with them now.

: : : : Don't worry about winning. Just find a team where your daughter will earn playing time and learn.

: : : HS varsity is all about winning. EYBL club is about playing in front of college scouts. All other levels (club or HS) are about player development (including HS fall ball, spring ball, summer ball, lower level club programs)

: : Valley clubs:
: : Tvt coaches average-2 practices a week-no high school program if they do it's jv

: : R2h great coach-3 practices a week-has high school teams and play in college viewing tournament in and out of state

: : So cal shooters great coach-practice 2 times a week- high school program and doesn't play viewing tournament but maybe this year

: : West coast dream great coach- one high school team and doesn't play viewing tournament.

: : BBG great coach-not sure if they're still active- they play at viewing tournament.

: : Just check them out if you live in the valley and see what's best for your daughter and make sure they don't just take your money. And if you want to check sponsored teams check Cal storm-west coast premier-cal sparks-cal stars-and GBL but it will cost more $ and time.

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: Totally forgot about West Coast Dream and BBG.

: West Coast Dream has been around several years now. Really like Coach Sara. However, it always seemed like the program is built around 1 or 2 players. For example, for years, the PG from Alemany played on like 2 or 3 of their teams every tournament. She was the best one on each level, so why not just play on the higher team? How do the other players develop? As mentioned, they don't really play HS viewing tourneys, so this is more of a youth option if your goal is to one day play in college.

: BBG - this isn't so much a program as a team. You can debate the merit of the coach - I'm not a fan as she yells way too much and she clearly favors her daughter. They play at viewing tourneys but in lower divisions as they don't have a lot of top players. Don't even think they have any youth teams.

: Again, try them all and see where the best fit is.



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