Posted by Gaming the system on January 05, 2018 at 00:43:50:
In Reply to: Re: Can someone explain why Foothill Tech is still in 4AA division? posted by 805 news on January 04, 2018 at 22:01:37:
: : : : : I guess my question is....
: : : : : Why does this...
: : : : : 2015-16: 24-2, 14-0 in league, ranked 257 in state by Max Preps
: : : : : 2016-17: 18-7, 10-0 in league, ranked 189 in state by Max Preps
: : : : : Equate to just a 11.88 2 year average?
: : : : : There are teams with way worse records and way worse MaxPreps ratings, who scored way higher in the 2 year averages.
: : : : CIF uses different formula then maxpreps including playoffs performance which means a lot in the formula.
: : : To answer the question, for CIF placements, it is strictly on who they play, not their record or ranking. Playing a D1 team, win or lose, is different than playing a D5 team. So even though Foothill Tech has had a few quality opponents, they have also had a lot of games against low division teams. This has hurt their rating for CIF. The combination of some tournament/non league games against lower division teams and their league, which is all D3 or lower, has kept them down division wise.
: : This is not in regards to FT, they are a newer athletic program that plays an extremely difficult preseason schedule for their division placement and I imagine will eventually move their way higher, though their league does have many lower division teams. They should be commended for their tough schedule despite being a D4 team and because of it will probably earn themselves a CIF title.
: : Now
: : Isnít that a flaw in the system considering you allow teams to game the system by the opponents they play. If you play D 5 teams, even if you go 25-0 you still cannot accumulate very many points. A lower division team may actually earn more points to in a loss to a higher division than the team playing them. I think all wins should count for more points than any loss if their is no point spread in the equation. If you add a point difference in the equation a single digit loss to a D1 team could at least be judged differently than a 40 point running clock loss to the same team.
: They are ranked #25 in CIF Southern Section on Maxpreps because of a 8-2 record and a solid strength of schedule this year
There are many coaches who know the CIF system. Foothill Tech is definitely not gaming the system this year as they are playing many D1 and D2 teams. If Canyon makes the Open, their loss to them will be worth 28 points.. which is about a 1.1 power bump. FT defeated Burroughs and Crescenta Valley that same week which will also be large power points. Looking at 4AA, FT is a virtual lock for semis and the favorite to win the division. Winning CIF in D4 is a 80 point bonus bump or about 3.0 power points.. Look for FT to be in 2A next year.. with a weak league, they may and I do mean may be able to slip into a 3AA spot....
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