Re: Competitive Equity

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Posted by Coach on May 01, 2023 at 13:10:11:

In Reply to: Re: Competitive Equity posted by Facts on May 01, 2023 at 09:52:41:

: : : : Does anyone feel like competitive equity has hurt good programs and helped bad programs? It seems like if you struggle badly for a couple of years you will be rewarded. Another observation is that it loads up the top couple of divisions which means after the first round in the playoffs half of all the best teams in Socal are out of the playoffs while you could have a school of 3,000 that has underachieved for a couple of years beating schools of 500 students in the semi's or finals of division V. Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this.

: : : Yes, but that is exactly the point of it. Commissioner himself Said the point of it was to help struggling programs have a chance at playoff success. Also helps group all the schools that recruit every year towards the top so they don't get easy runs at the bottom division. The one flaw is the first year a school recruits it still is placed down....either way though it will all be changed in 2 years when they go to the same year data program, at that point recruiting schools will all be placed higher and the bottom divisions will all be lesser programs.

: : Seems like struggling programs at schools of 3,000 should "WORK" to get better rather than be handed CIF Championships in division V. Words like WORK and EARN are no longer valued in our world of equity.

: Only way a school with 3,000 student body gets to Division V is horrible coaching and athletic directors hiring their "buddies", only to blame and yell at the players for them being completely INEPT. That is the bottom line. That should never happen with 3,000 student body.

: Take a look at Valencia/Placentia. Current coach "made" 12+ guys quit or transfer when he took over the program. Two or three players being D2 to NAIA types. A whole team quit! So, is it the entire team or the coach? Let me answer for all, the COACH!

: In 2014 they were D1, now knocking on door to get to D5. The communities know what goes on in their local school districts and who is a good coach and who is a joke. Who would you send your kids to? The good coach or the joke? We all know what that answer is.

A little confused with the example. Your bring up a school that the system does not help for the simple reason that they would not qualify for playoffs. They are in a league that they are not going to be able to get top 3 for a playoff bid and Division 5 never has at large bids so even if they had an easier non league schedule it wouldnt make a difference.

Again if you look at who actually won in the D5 playoffs. Blair and Bosco Tech both brought in 3 transfers to add to both having 1 stud. This is why I say that the current system benefits a smaller program that loads up. Again there is no guarantee they will win the lower division but they have 1 really good shot where there are only a few solid teams and after that they will be in D4 with a more competitive field.

Once the system changes in 2 years though, these types of teams would be hard pressed to win in the playoffs as they would have been in a much higher division.

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