Re: Dear Future University of Phoenix dropout


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Posted by Maybe Maybe Not on July 25, 2017 at 18:06:56:

In Reply to: Dear Future University of Phoenix dropout posted by Justin Credible on July 25, 2017 at 17:18:15:

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Reached another low lavar. Pulling your team off because you get a "T" what a great example you are. This game isnt about you or that stipid reality tv crew. You're a selfish blowhard and if it weee me, you'd never be able to bring a team back.

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : This is what happens when a person thinks they are bigger than the game itself! They literally don't care about the sport of basketball and they just want to be part of a "show". I blame Slam Magazine and Ballislife because they promote this circus.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Good stuff for a t.v. show. Very innovative promoting. B.b.b. was winning the game when he pulled them off the court. Feel bad for the kids who missed out on getting extra looks from college coaches. LA var of course does not have to worry since his son is going to u.c.l.a.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Big CRY Baby Brand!

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : and who made you the Judge of people? Look into the mirror flawed human. It is easy to see the spec of dust in another's eye but you can't see the huge 2x4 beam in your own. It seems you use this forum for your mental therapy.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : If you were there, and actually played basketball on a decent level above jv as a junior, then you were kind of glad to see what Lavar did. You guys spend you're time hating Lavar so much that you miss the real trash in basketball. The refs for that game were terrible. Not bad. Not suspect. TERRIBLE!
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Don't listen to Jack "5'3" rotund, never played a sport, fake journalist can't get a job at a paper so he calls himself freelance" Pollon when he or the guys like him say "it's about the kids." The calls made in that game, actually most of the games, were atrocious and a disservice to the kids and disrespectful to the game. In the BBB game a ref was talking to a parent, turned to look back into the game and blew his whistle. He then made up some nonsense as to why he blew his whistle.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Lavar did what a lot of coaches want to do. "But they don't Justin." I know Jack. And no... coaches can't pull their teams every time that they don't agree with how the game is going. BUT... if more people would question the refs from this situation then the organizers would stop booking these grade D refs.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : No, what will get it deleted is that you always...ALWAYS... have to veer so far off-topic.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : The original post was about Lavar Ball and his actions (some would say outrageous, others justified) in pulling his team from a tournament game at the Best of Summer.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Thread has nothing to do with Jack Pollon.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Take that shit somewhere else. No one cares about your beef with Pollon any longer. It's old news, yesterday's stale fish, and the wrap has been thrown away because it just stinks. Kind of like your posts.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Justin has to bring up Pollon because his "code" doesn't allow him to "call out" anyone other than a white male on their bullshit. So when Caster expresses an opinion opposite his own, he must be addressed and admonished though a proxy (Pollon).

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Ugh... Who gave the 7th grade third place debate team winner a keyboard? Ok Timmy, since you're saying that my problems with the crooks of youth sports is based on "white guilt" you've missed the following:
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 1) Jewish isn't white
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 2) My laundry list of issues with Lavar Ball, who's black, destroying a high school for his family's gain... and for 2 kids that can't play.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 3) I've questioned if Alemany's coach is actually a good coach. Guess what? He's black.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 4) I've said that Sierra Canyon's best basketball player is actually Feinberg. Here's a hint, his first name isn't Malik.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : What you're doing is trying to find an excuse for the nepotism of the buddy group of SoCal private schools, high school sports "coverage" etc. So instead of acknowledging the wrong that they do, you come up with "Justin Credible is suffering white guilt." Even for a 6th grader that's a future University of Phoenix dropout, you're an idiot.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Here's a fun "white guilt" fact for you: Right now there's 8... yes 8... private schools in the valley alone that is filtering admission applications to their schools based on race. Yes! Race. And the reason is... wait for it... sports. Oohhh Dustin isn't getting enough playing time. So not only are these school handing Dustin more orange slices and capri suns during halftime, they now have prejudice practices because mommy, daddy and the schools prefer to be racist than to have Dustin compete to play.

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Would love to see the actual, hard copy data on this statement. If there was proof, as opposed to opinion, this would be a scandal of epic proportions.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Please name the 8 schools that are "filtering" admission applications based on race.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Go ahead, name them.

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : And back it up with data, not just anecdotal stories.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : Got called out Justin. Don't let me down! lets hear those names!

: : : : : : : : : : : : If you are going to make those type of claims, you can't just name schools. You need to have facts to back them up.

: : : : : : : : : : : : Or retract and say you "have heard" some schools are doing it.

: : : : : : : : : : : : Because he said it is a fact. So let's have the proof.

: : : : : : : : : : : Now you're being stupid. No offense but you are. The facts are seen. Look at the change of the teams themselves. You're saying that it's a scandal of epic proportions but that's the same thing that he's saying. When he said that stuff about Chaminade guys said that it's a huge scandal and that turned out to be true. Before the season even started he said that Village is going to be scandal. Look at that. He said that XRoads has some inner problems. Boom the coach ran back to Vegas.
: : : : : : : : : : : I'm not only giving benefit of the doubt with JC. I'm looking at how these teams look at it seems like he's right. But if you're asking to name names and give proof, you're just being stupid. Why would someone rat out whoever's telling them or how would they give proof on socal hoops. This thread will be deleted in 5 minutes anyway.

: : : : : : : : : : The eye test doesn't provide evidence of Justin's claim. If, in fact, the ethnic makeup of these teams has changed rapidly, there is a far more likely explanation. In all likelihood, the reason is that the school has ceased prioritizing financial aid(scholarships) for athletes. That is worlds away from Justin's claim that the schools are "filtering admission applications" by race.

: : : : : : : : : : Honestly, there is virtually zero chance that Justin's claim is correct.

: : : : : : : : : These statements that Justin's claims is 100% wrong 100% comes from white people. I'd say that the his claims are 80% correct. I know A LOT of qualified black families that haven't gotten into 3-4 different private schools. So live in your ivory tower if you want to.

: : : : : : : : The claim was that there are AT LEAST eight (8) private schools in the San Fernando Valley that are actively screening applicants BASED ON RACE.

: : : : : : : : You knowing "a lot" (whatever number that may be) of families that have not gotten into 3 or 4 private schools isn't proof (or even correlation) of Mr. Credible's outlandish statement.

: : : : : : : : He needs to name the schools. It's that simple. Either he can name them, or he can't.

: : : : : : : : If he can't, or won't, the statement lacks any CREDIBILITY.

: : : : : : : I wouldn't deny for a minute that racism exists and that in individual cases could affect admissions. But Justin's claim is just outlandish. He claimed that not only were 8 specific private schools filtering applications by race to keep minority kids out- but that the reason for doing so was to protect playing time for white kids on sports teams. As if the only minority kids who might be applying to private schools are athletes.

: : : : : : : Admissions to elite private schools are very complicated. And like college admissions, many, many highly qualified candidates get turned away. Looking at a school like Harvard Westlake, fewer than 20% of applicants get admitted. And the vast majority of he 80% who get turned down are "qualified."

: : : : : : : Another factor which clouds admission decisions is financial aid. Almost no schools offer need-blind admissions. This means that whether an applicant will need financial aid to attend can affect the admissions decision.

: : : : : : : Again, there is absolutely no way to infer from the look of a basketball team that a school is filtering admissions by race. It is beyond absurd.

: : : : : : Let me correct myself then. I know black families that were qualified and didn't get in. I'm basing them being "qualified" on the white families that I know that got in. The kids from the black families actually has better grades than the white kids. We know what it is. And the only people that don't know that this is happening are the people that don't want to know, and those people are 100% white people. Just enjoy being white but don't try to dismiss everything that makes you uncomfortable.

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: : : : : I believe you missed one of the key points previous poster to you made.

: : : : : There is a difference between admissions and going to the school.

: : : : : You say you know minority families that didn't get in to certain schools while similar Caucasian kids did. You don't mention how many or where, but we will put that aside for now. What you don't say is whether the student was rejected, or they were admitted but didn't get enough aid to go to that school. There is a HUGE difference there.

: : : : : It has nothing to do with grades. Getting in and getting the required financial aid are separate issues.

: : : : : And I know plenty of kids - of all races and backgrounds - who got into different private schools but did not get enough aid to go there. Some were athletes, some weren't.

: : : : : Need more facts, need more specifics. If what JC says is true, and can be proven, it goes against the admission policies of almost every private school. There may even be legal issues. But again, admission and attendance due to financial aid are not the same.

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: : : : LMBAO. Did you really say that it can't be true because it goes against the rules of the admission office's. Like JC says "Go drown in a puddle." Guess what, life is a little different for black folks than it is for you white folks. But the way that you're dismissing it and calling for "facts" on a blog forum is insulting and stupid. What JC is saying is true and there's a lot of people that know it. But it isn't new. Hate to break the news to you but there are private schools that has an unspoken quota. The only thing new that JC is saying is that the quote number is lowering.

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: : : No one said it isn't happening. People are just asking for some actual data/facts/proof before blindly accepting a broad and very harsh premise.

: : : Again you provide none of these.

: : : And you don't address the issue of admission vs. financial aid. Because my guess is JC was specifically talking about athletes. And if schools are cutting back on financial aid for athletes, then this could be impacting this perception.

: : : But again - give specifics, school names, sports, data, etc.

: : : Sadly, what JC is alleging I'm sure does go on to some degree at many schools. I don't condone it, and I don't think it is right.

: : : But his statement was very broad. He basically accused virtually every major private school in the valley of this practice.

: : : That is a big statement. So back it up.

: : Financial aid figures in this more prominently than even you are acknowledging. Actual admission decisions(not just matriculation attendance) are affected by whether or not an applicant will be applying for aid.

: : Here's why. No schools have enough aid available for every applicant who needs it. Schools are very reluctant to admit a candidate who is applying for aid unless the school is prepared to offer the necessary aid. Why? Because two numbers are used to evaluate the exclusiveness of a school- 1. Admissions rate and 2. Yield

: : Yield, (or matriculation rate) is the percentage of admitted applicants who actually enroll. The inference from a high matriculation rate is that anyone who can get into a school will go to the school. This, the school is very desirable.

: : Exclusive private schools will go to great lengths not to admit anyone whom they think will not actually enroll. Whether it is because of a long commute, the school is a 2nd or 3rd choice, ...or because not enough aid is being offered to allow the candidate to attend. This frequently results in candidate A (more qualified, FA applicant) getting rejected while candidate B (marginally less qualified, no aid application) gets accepted.

: You're an idiot. You are literally saying that a school will not admit a student because they don't want to be 2nd choice or long commute etc. So by your "legitimate reasons to deny a qualified applicant" a school in Santa Monica could reasonably only accept kids that live in Santa Monica... and that's ok with you? Your defense for the prejudice practice is idiotic and it's baffling that you don't see it.
: Go outside, take a deep breath and think about what your saying. Using reduced financial aid as a tool to reduce minority enrollment is just as bad as not admitting at all. I can't believe that I'm explaining this.

I have a co-worker whose wife works in admissions at a private school - not in the valley but in the So Cal area.

What that other poster said is true - to an extent. A lot of it has to do with school capacity. If a school is close to capacity, they may be more selective based on some of the criteria the poster mentioned.

If their enrollment is down, they are more lenient, regardless of any circumstances.

For instance - look at Notre Dame since it is in the valley. If you even take the entrance exam somewhere else, you will not be accepted. If you mark second choice, you won't be accepted. Your parents went there? They don't care. You are from the local parish? Don't care. Of the non-braniac schools (HW, Viewpoint, etc.) Notre Dame is the hardest school to get into by far. Why? It has nothing to do with anything besides the fact it is probably the only school in the Valley with a waiting list.

That being said, you are still ignoring the question posed above - what schools are you talking about and are they being admitted/rejected or just not getting financial aid????


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