Re: Why Lonzo Ball isn't the surefire NBA superstar people seem to think he is

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Posted by fan on February 02, 2017 at 16:05:49:

In Reply to: Re: Why Lonzo Ball isn't the surefire NBA superstar people seem to think he is posted by TrumpyMcTrump on February 02, 2017 at 15:14:47:

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: : : : : : : : The writer is a Buckley grad, so he does have experience with being overrated.

: : : : : : : #1 pick?

: : : : : : wtf. how'd this guy get a writing gig at CBS? what a joke!

: : : : : : That being said, I don't know that anybody sees Ball, or any of the high draft picks, as franchise-altering players. There is no Embiid or Towns in the draft. And, even with Towns, he hasn't exactly changed that franchise, even with help from Wiggins, Lavine, etc. If Embiid was healthy, and playing 35 minutes every game, 76ers would be a playoff team. That's franchise altering.

: : : : : You guys are idiots. That was a brilliantly written article. You may not agree with the conclusion, but the writer knows the NBA game and has written a cogent, thoughtful piece which is no doubt way beyond the comprehension of those who need to engage instead in ad hominem attacks, rather than intelligent debate.

: : : : : And how does he get the gig? Just like Mike Bresnahan (Buckley grad and former LA Times sports writer who covered the Lakers for a dozen years, now an analyst for Spectrum, by doing what competent, professional sports writers do: By writing about and carefully observing the athletes who play the sport. And by having degrees in journalism, which I guess makes them professionals, and you guys....well, amateurs.

: : : : Oh no, a 19 year old basketball player has flaws in his game. That's unheard of! LMAO.....

: : : Sounds like CBS is looking to emulate the hot takes of BR and SB Nation. You can tell sports journalism is dead when writers with degrees are resorting to clickbait.  The article is as cogent as the reasoning that beating a college freshman 4-5 years your junior in a pickup game means that said player will be an NBA bust. Pfhht. Michael Jordan's last collegiate game was a loss in which current Bruins coach Steve Alford guarded him and Uwe Blab outscored him.

: : : The article says Lonzo can't shoot mid-range shots because he doesn't take them. Lots of NBA guys didn't shoot mid-range in college either...because they hadn't honed the skill yet, or didn't have to. Obviously such nuance is beyond Trolly McTroll's comprehension, who chastises ad hominem attacks while engaging in them himself. But hey, alternative logic, right?

: : : Some great analysts on Spectrum Sports...even though their best one went to coach at Lawndale.

: : He'd fit in Houston. They actively avoid mid-range shots! Why is not shooting the least efficiency shot in basketball a negative? That shows intelligence. Unless you shoot the midrange like Dirk or Chris Paul, you're better off kicking out to the open shooter, which is what he does. He plays the way that the game is moving, not the way the game was played 10 years ago.

: Mid Range asks:

: "Why is not shooting the least efficiency [sic] shot in basketball a negative?"

: Study Demar Derozan's game and you'll see why the mid-range jumper is a vastly under-appreciated skill.

Only because DD doesn't have three point range. If you can hit threes or get to the rack it's preferable to a long 2.

The key here is Lonzo passing up open mid-range jumpers to make bad decisions? Haven't seen it yet. He is on a loaded team offensively, someone else will have a better shot than a midrange jumper on most possessions for one of the best offensive teams in basketball. He's letting the defense off easy if he doesn't try to get the defense to collapse on him. His FT shooting needs work, but the three-point percentage suggests he's more Kidd than Rondo. And Kidd couldn't shoot at this age.

The article makes a good point about defense, and he may never have the footspeed to guard some of the quicker guys in the league. Though he could thrive in a situation like James Harden is in, alongside a defensive guard like Beverley and lockdown wing like Ariza.

James Harden took 25% of his shots from midrange last year, that number has dropped to 14% under D'Antoni. It's just a byproduct of their great floor spacing and multiple spot-up options.

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